Joker 2 Finally Settles A Debate That Completely Changes The Original Ending After 5 Years
WARNING: This article contains spoilers for Joker: Folie À Deux!
Joker: Folie à Deux featured many choices that put the original Joker in a brand-new light, but one of the DC movie"s most subtle reveals is what completely changes the ending to the 2019 film. Instead of the massive success that was the original Joker, which
held the title of highest-grossing R-rated movie of all time for around five years, Joker: Folie à Deux has bombed. The movie had an abysmal opening weekend, which will make it hard for it to even turn in a profit, let alone get anywhere near the numbers of the original Joker.
There are many factors that affected Joker: Folie à Deux"s performance, with the movie not landing well with critics and audiences. The Joker sequel now holds the worst CinemaScore rating among all superhero movie adaptations with a D, showing how moviegoers are responding negatively to the film. Joker: Folie à Deux decided to go on a different path in comparison to the first movie,
making crucial changes to Joaquin Phoenix"s Arthur Fleck. While Joker: Folie à Deux"s ending featured the movie"s biggest surprise, an earlier reveal is what settles the debate about the ending of the original Joker.
Joker (2019) Hinted At Arthur's 7th Victim The DC Movie Never Confirmed Joker's Possible Final Kill Close Joaquin Phoenix"s Arthur Fleck killed a lot of people in 2019"s Joker. While Arthur did not initially set out to do so, as the character slowly transformed into the Joker in the first film in the franchise, his violent impulses became increasingly harder to control.
The Joker used different methods to kill, going from shooting Wall Street men after they had thrown him on the ground and kicked him to smothering his mother with a pillow to shooting Murray Franklin in the head on live TV and more. After killing six people, Joker"s ending teased a final victim.
Character
How The Joker Killed Them
Unnamed Wall Street Man #1
Shot in the head
Unnamed Wall Street Man #2
Shot in the chest
Unnamed Wall Street Man #3
Shot in the back multiple times
Penelope "Penny" Fleck
Suffocated with a pillow
Randall
Stabbed in the throat and eye, head bashed against the wall repeatedly
Murray Franklin
Shot in the head on live TV
While the Joker directly killed six people throughout the 2019 movie, with his actions serving as inspiration for other deaths, like Bruce Wayne"s parents getting shot, Arthur Fleck was never shown killing what could have been his final victim. Joker"s ending focuses on Arthur back in Arkham State Hospital, talking to a psychiatrist after he was imprisoned for the murders he committed.
The movie never showed the psychiatrist"s fate after talking to Arthur, but as Phoenix"s character left the meeting with the soles of his shoes bloody and trying to run away, it seemed like he had killed the psychiatrist.
Joker: Folie à Deux Confirms Arthur Didn't Kill The Psychiatrist The Joker Also Does Not Kill Anyone In The Sequel Close Joker"s ending, with Arthur possibly having killed the psychiatrist or not, was intentionally left ambiguous to preserve the debate over whether the murder had happened, much like many of the events during the film. However, with a sequel having finally come out five years later, the answer to the psychiatrist"s fate has finally been revealed. While Joker: Folie à Deux never went back to that moment from the original movie"s ending,
the film mainly focuses on the trial of Arthur Fleck. That setup allowed the sequel to subtly reveal that Arthur did not kill the psychiatrist.
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